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valentyne
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posted 01-04-2003 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for valentyne   Click Here to Email valentyne     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
season 3 or no?

kind of an odd time to bring this up, but i am personally against it. This season has ended up very boring. With 3 squads leaving and basically every other game being delayed, there really hasnt been much action. Now there is only 8 teams in the league (ac dropped) so there will only be 2 games per week for the next 5 rounds. only 2 squads wont make it to the playoffs.

Besides, if there was no fl - there would be more time for 4v4. I think we should let the majority speak on this issue and decide, because it seems like many more would enjoy just a dueling league, or even tourneys.

-val


[This message has been edited by valentyne (edited 01-04-2003).]

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Sentinel^
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posted 01-04-2003 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sentinel^   Click Here to Email Sentinel^     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Heh, kinda early to come up with this topic.
Its not really succesfull till now, i agree. But let this league just finish. It's too early to say that this league is really not a succes. Also some people like to have a flagging league, maybe not the majority. But those people that like to flag has also the right on a league.
I think maybe it should be possible to host tourney leagues though while swzfl is running.

-Senti

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Jade
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posted 01-05-2003 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jade     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't say it's early at all. It's already week 7 and the top squad is 4-0. On top of that, some squads have had up to a month off before they play their next game. Val is right about one thing, SWZFL so far has been boring, but I have to agree that the league must finish before deciding on whether or not to remove it entirely. I imagine there will be an SWZFL season 3, but if there is, at least find some way to weed out those squads who end up dropping or being kicked from league so that it ends when it's supposed to. I must end it by saying I don't think forcing a league like this on the zone is such a great idea, seeing how long it took just to set things up and pushed the more popular events back longer than most had hoped. That's just my opinion, take it how you will. Later.

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Wanderito
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posted 01-05-2003 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wanderito   Click Here to Email Wanderito     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
swzfl is very boring indeed,we don't need this league.Swzl more often instead!
swzt wouldn't bad either...

Wander

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Nikuja
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posted 01-05-2003 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nikuja     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I agree. The fact that Incoming! has not been able to show 10 to every match shows that the players are bored.

I am not sure how to make it more interesting.

One thing about sWZFL I enjoy over SWZL is that a larger number of players get to participate.

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Raynor
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posted 01-05-2003 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raynor   Click Here to Email Raynor     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The only reason that ORION is still in SWZFL is because a small group of players like it.
I agree with Jade, ORION doesnt have a match for 3 weeks. We got 1 match postponed (not because of us).

I think if we ever try a next SWZFL season there must be a VERY active staff and atleast 10 squads (ACTIVE playing)

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Nikuja
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posted 01-05-2003 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nikuja     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Also the games seem slow and dull. Im not sure how to pick up the pace and make it so that once a team gets all the flags they are not basically guaraneeted a win.

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Slyth
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posted 01-05-2003 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slyth   Click Here to Email Slyth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
We tried that. The 1v1v1 games were supposed to fulfil that; however people bitched and complained about those, so we went back to 1v1.

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Misoza
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posted 01-05-2003 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Misoza   Click Here to Email Misoza     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I just think any league that gets spread over the Xmas period is bound for trouble, it will pick up a tad, i hope

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azn-rai
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posted 01-06-2003 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for azn-rai     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
be more organized :\

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AntShaw
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posted 01-06-2003 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AntShaw   Click Here to Email AntShaw     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
In agreement with the holiday problems.

Had it been swzl or anything else you would run into the same problems, kids go home from school, people travelling, no time to play.

I thouroughly enjoy swzfl. The thrill of competition is great, and its a great way for you to play with alot of members from your squad, with no center killers taking up spots, and not on a priv night when no one will flag against you.

It is a shame that some of the squads cant show 10 people. There is a full week to work out a scheduled time, that for some reason I sometimes see squads that dont even post anything until Weds or Thurs. How can you expect anyone to manage their time when the captains arent responsible on scheduling?

I also do think things have even been a little disorganized on the swzfl staff. Even for one of our matches We had over 10 people there, the opposing team had over 10 people there, and not a single ref showed up!!

Its a shame to see that flagging has taken a back seat to every other aspect of this zone and its many sub arenas. What about maybe putting a weekly news update in the main swz with times for the scheduled matches that way maybe people that dont know its going on, can come in and watch and get interested.

And personally its not such a bad thing that we have fewer squads becuase I think its better to be able to play people twice as compared to one. I mean, that way you can always avenge a loss.

Ah well. Rock on!

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Nikuja
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posted 01-06-2003 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nikuja     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Another issue is its easier to get 4 people over the holidays for SWZL while for SWZFL finding 10 can be a problem.

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Novel!
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posted 01-15-2003 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novel!     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
ever thought about 2squads v.s 2squads in swzfl?...just an idea.

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Dirty
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posted 01-16-2003 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirty   Click Here to Email Dirty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
swzfl if fun. It is hard sometimes for everone on a squad to show up at a certain time. People live in all different time zones and have certain things they need to do. Its just another thing do besides swz!

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azn-rai
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posted 01-17-2003 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for azn-rai     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
thats why ur leader/captain should pick times that you guys can all be on at once. if they dont then they are dumb :\

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BloodDrinker
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posted 01-17-2003 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodDrinker     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

SWZFL is meant to be a fun and friendly competition, not a professional league. People just take things too seriously in SS sometimes.

If people wanted SWZL or SWZT to start, there's no reason why it couldn't run at the same time as SWZFL without much interference to either league. As it is, there's only 3 matches a week for flag league now. That really shouldn't cause many scheduling woes. Besides, you only need 4 people for SWZL or 2 for SWZT. The only foreseeable problem would be that you'd have to line up a ref before your match, as two leagues might spread the staff a little thin (some refs and smods help out in multiple leagues).

Ask C'Baoth or Maddok (politely) and they might start working on getting their next seasons running. There's no reason we can't please everyone. Some people want to flag, others want to duel. That's just how it goes. =)

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