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BlackAle
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posted 06-05-2002 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
CM seems obsessed with my sexuality (gay), everytime I'm in the channel he can't resist commenting on how terrible it is, and how I'd be better off dead.

In my opinion, he's probably gay himself, or at least very insecure about his own sexuality, it's truly pathetic how he carries on.

Just wondering what anyone else thinks?

btw, CM thinks he's so clever by calling me BlackAle when I'm now using the nick Hoegaarden, like he's exposed me, lol.

Hoegaarden = BlackAle = frazzle


[This message has been edited by BlackAle (edited 06-05-2002).]

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daz
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posted 06-05-2002 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daz   Click Here to Email daz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackAle:
CM seems obsessed with my sexuality (gay), everytime I'm in the channel he can't resist commenting on how terrible it is, and how I'd be better off dead.

In my opinion, he's probably gay himself, or at least very insecure about his own sexuality, it's truly pathetic how he carries on.


While I think it's nice to see someone honest about being gay, no one really cares if you'd rather sleep with men/women.

As for CM, he's a 12 (?) year old from Alabama, what do you want?

Oh, and on a semi-similar note, I find it absolutely hilarious that using "fag" as an insult is allowed in this forum and in swz. It's biggotry, no different from someone saying "n*gger", yet one is acceptable and one isn't.

Go figure.

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posted 06-05-2002 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodDrinker     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

Daz, I could list off a million instances such as that. You pretty much can't say anything that may reflect negatively upon gender, sexual preference, or ethnicity if you're in the "majority." It just doesn't pay to be a straight white male between the ages of 18 and 64. =)


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daz
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posted 06-05-2002 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daz   Click Here to Email daz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I remember some mod in swz getting a little pissy because someone was using the word "black". Funny how if he would have said "useless cock-gobbling fag" instead, it would have been okay.

Maybe if no biggotry was allowed, swz would be a cleaner place. But seeing I can recall some mods using the word "fag", I doubt it's a priority.

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posted 06-06-2002 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrAcKAtTaCk   Click Here to Email CrAcKAtTaCk     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Cm is a total Homosexual. The other day he asked me if i wanted to go to the pool and wreslte with him.

Then one time I told him all i had on was boxers and he was like. lets do a net meeting.

CM=100% homosexual

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//Crack

My sexiness just scares people, and from my experiences with sexiness, fear usually equals violence but eventually I'll win their hearts, and everybody will want to make love to me

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posted 06-06-2002 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chicken-Man-   Click Here to Email Chicken-Man-     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
haha crack!

no hoe, not every time, only on every other day

and of course im not in the closet, im in my room!
woot

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posted 06-06-2002 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Subslayer !   Click Here to Email Subslayer !     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i also think it's rather funny if i see for example ma$e saying 'u homosexual'
i mean i dont see that word as very 'insultive' (i dont know if that word even exist ), but maybe thats a difference in culture

btw where did u get the nick hoegaarden? do u know that s a belgium white beer?

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BlackAle
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posted 06-06-2002 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Subslayer, a few months ago when I was thinking of a new nick, I was drinking a bottle of Hoegaarden, so I chose that.

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posted 06-06-2002 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodDrinker     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

No, it's true with Americans too, at least, Sub. Two words can mean the EXACT same thing but for some reason we say one is bad and the other is ok. It doesn't make much sense to me how these taboos just seem to be randomly applied.


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BlackAle
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posted 06-06-2002 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by daz:
While I think it's nice to see someone honest about being gay, no one really cares if you'd rather sleep with men/women.

As for CM, he's a 12 (?) year old from Alabama, what do you want?


Daz, I just want CM's abusive comments to stop, I couldn't care less about him or his age, I don't see the relevance of your last comment.

[This message has been edited by BlackAle (edited 06-06-2002).]

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BlackAle
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posted 06-06-2002 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
BloodDrinker...

fags are disgusting, I don't want cancer!

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Slyth
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posted 06-06-2002 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slyth   Click Here to Email Slyth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Fags cause cancer!

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posted 06-06-2002 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TPS   Click Here to Email TPS     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Why even make a point out of it that he's homosexual? It's not like it has ANY relevance within this game. To me (and all other Europeans(/normal people )) he's just another fine SS player.

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posted 06-06-2002 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crawdaddy   Click Here to Email Crawdaddy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I agree with BlackAle. Just because it's some immature punk kid that's constantly crying out for attention doesn't mean that he should be allowed to abuse others verbally or otherwise.

But I do agree with daz on the matter of some words being considered offensive and others not. I think there may be a culture gap here between Europeans, Americans, Aussies, and others. It may be more specific that than, too. In any case, it's wrong to allow some discriminatory words and not others. This seems like something worth confronting the staff over.

-Craw

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posted 06-06-2002 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daz   Click Here to Email daz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlackAle:
I don't see the relevance of your last comment.

I meant it's hard to get a 12 year old to understand the impact of his words.

I was talking about the bigger picture here, just like what craw said. I don't think the words "faggot" & "homosexual" etc etc should be allowed in the zone and on the board. The only problem with that is that I'm positive the staff has no problem telling noobs to watch their language, but if someone like mase says "you homo" none of the staff cares at all. He can say anything he wants, and the staff will just say "he's just kidding, learn how to take a joke".

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posted 06-06-2002 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AiRRaZoR   Click Here to Email AiRRaZoR     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
BloodDrinker...
fags are disgusting, I don't want cancer!


blackale, stick with the topic, but dont go post this idiot messages here, thats low, same for you slyth....

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posted 06-06-2002 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TPS   Click Here to Email TPS     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
There will always be people 'insulting' others for "gay" or "nigger", because they think it's an insult. They paint a picture of someone who they believe is less-human than himself, and start compairing others with this picture. Those words shouldn't be forbidden on these forums, it's those very narrowminded people who should be banned.

If I call NV a girl it's for fun, if I call NV a homosexual, it's for fun, same thing. He doesn't take "girl" as offence and he doesn't take "gay" as offence, neither should any girls or gays.... (well none intended, but I can imagine 'em taking offence being compaired to NV j/k)

Sadly there are still (even in 2002) people who believe that if someone isn't 100% the same as they themselves, that someone is a bad person. (hmm sounds like a childish way of saying it, but it's the lack of english, sry )

So once again, a lesson for (mostly) Americans: live and let live, I'm not too fond of whatching two men making out on the streets either:P, but if it is what makes them happy, by all means treat them as what they are: Normal People.

-TPS

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posted 06-06-2002 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Levitron     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I am a biology major and I can tell you that the more queers are accepted, the more there will be... sad but true. This will eventually result in everyone being queers and the human race will die off

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posted 06-06-2002 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daz   Click Here to Email daz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Levitron:
I am a biology major and I can tell you that the more queers are accepted, the more there will be... sad but true. This will eventually result in everyone being queers and the human race will die off

See? This is the idiot way of thinking I'm talking about. This kind of thinking doesn't belong on the forum or in the zone.

Yet another thread gone to the shits. *sigh*

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posted 06-06-2002 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AiRRaZoR:
BloodDrinker...
fags are disgusting, I don't want cancer!


blackale, stick with the topic, but dont go post this idiot messages here, thats low, same for you slyth....


I was responding to a comment about words having different meanings, with a slightly tongue in cheek anwser ...obviously the above comment went completely over your head.

A fag is a cigarette.

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posted 06-06-2002 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I think several people mistunderstand my problem. I couldn't care less about someone calling me a homo, queer, fag, gay, whatever word you'd like to use.

CM's comment's go far beyond that, i'm sick, perverted, have no right to be alive, better off dead, scum of the earth, etc... according to him, he also goes on at length about what he thiks my sex life consists of, littered with more abuse.

Comments made in jest I have no problem with, pure hate messages I do have a problem with.

I find this kind of behaviour unacceptable, pure and simple.

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posted 06-06-2002 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slyth   Click Here to Email Slyth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AiRRaZoR:
BloodDrinker...
fags are disgusting, I don't want cancer!


blackale, stick with the topic, but dont go post this idiot messages here, thats low, same for you slyth....


I was being sarcastic.

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posted 06-06-2002 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Commy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
You (all of you) need to get over the fact that the word fag, homosexual, queer, is thrown around. There is nothing you can do about it, so just get over it. You could ban them, you could edit their posts, so on and so forth, but what's the point? If you aren't insecure, then why should it bother you? It's a lowsy game, and some 12 year old sub-human such as CM shouldn't bother you.

Daz: The comment, Levitrons that is, was simply stated. Why should it be outlawed? Why does someone over a game, over a forum, bother you so much to the point where you must say and suggest reasons like they should be banned from the board?

BlackAle: Fag, queer, whatever. Why does it bother you? You obviously chose this lifestyle, and you probably knew people would comment on it, negativley or positivley. Whether it be on a game or not, you shouldn't go whining about it on this forum, because I'm sure not a lot of people give a shit. Deal with it, stick up for you damn self. Complaining about harassment over a video game is sad.

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posted 06-06-2002 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Commy:

BlackAle: Fag, queer, whatever. Why does it bother you? You obviously chose this lifestyle, and you probably knew people would comment on it, negativley or positivley. Whether it be on a game or not, you shouldn't go whining about it on this forum, because I'm sure not a lot of people give a shit. Deal with it, stick up for you damn self. Complaining about harassment over a video game is sad.

Try reading my posts, faq, queer whatever doesn't bother me.

Nope, I didn't choose my 'lifestyle' as you call it, did you choose your sexuality? your eye colour?

There's a big difference between negative comments and pure and simple hate messages. I don't see why anyone should have to put up with that kind of behaviour on SWZ or anywhere, whether their gay, black, martian, whatever.


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posted 06-06-2002 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AiRRaZoR   Click Here to Email AiRRaZoR     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
didnt know fag is also an ciggarette, so then slyth and blackale, ill take back my words

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posted 06-06-2002 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Commy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
People are insulted every day, every minute, on Subspace. For some of those minutes, you are the target. You really need to get over it. It's a video game, harassment happens. You chose to tell about your sexuality, which is the kind that people leech off of and make fun of you about.

This, simply, is why you need to stop complaining.

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posted 06-06-2002 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Commy you're truly pathetic

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posted 06-06-2002 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Commy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Grow up, kid.

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BlackAle
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posted 06-06-2002 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackAle   Click Here to Email BlackAle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
you should be addressing that comment to yourself.

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posted 06-06-2002 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodDrinker     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

Blackale's right if CM said something to the effect of "you are gay, therefore you don't deserve to live." That's not acceptable in real life. However, CoM has a point as well. I take enough shit for any five people in SS. Some I bring on myself, some is just random idiocy from the little punks that think insulting people makes them cool. I never bitch about it and I never take it to heart, though. Maybe I have thicker skin than others, but it's definitely (unfortunately) something you'll just have to get used to. Humans have the tendencay to find perceived flaws in others and try to exploit them to make themselves appear to be better people. It's just a fact of life.


Oh, and WTF does being american have to do with any of this. There are people of every race, creed, color, sexual preference here and we accept that, thus we're called the melting pot. I'm sick of you ignoramuses talking down to americans and making anti-american comments. It's the same exact thing as what blackale is talking about, only you're using geographical location to classify and dismiss people rather than sexual preference. You say live and let live, then quit fucking judging people!


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posted 06-06-2002 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C'baoth   Click Here to Email C'baoth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
People are insulted every day, every minute, in life. For some of those minutes, you are the target. You really need to get over it. It's life, harassment happens. You chose to tell about your sexuality, which is the kind that people leech off of and make fun of you about.

This, simply, is why you need to stop complaining.

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Hmmmm? Would this be acceptable to you Com? Funny, because you suddenly sit behind a computer you stop having to treat people with some common decentcy?

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posted 06-06-2002 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DCR     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Both of you are FAGGOTS. Here's an idea: Instead of insulting each other, why don't you two lovers release some sexual tension and take turns polishing each other's knobs? Yeah, I know you want BlackAle to ejaculate a stream of steamy man-love all over your face CM, you fucking switch hitter.

The rest of you sodomite lovers can slide a throbbing cock up your loose assholes. Cake eaters.

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posted 06-06-2002 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daz   Click Here to Email daz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlackAle:
Comments made in jest I have no problem with, pure hate messages I do have a problem with.

I find this kind of behaviour unacceptable, pure and simple.


then wtf are you whining about? Just ?ignore him.


quote:
Originally posted by Commy
Daz: The comment, Levitrons that is, was simply stated. Why should it be outlawed? Why does someone over a game, over a forum, bother you so much to the point where you must say and suggest reasons like they should be banned from the board?

Simply stated? That BS statement of his was homophobic propaganda.

Forget it. Obviously no one here gets my point. I'm not going to bother reading this thread anymore so don't bother replying.

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posted 06-07-2002 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheUndead   Click Here to Email TheUndead     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
ummm just a question.
Being gay is the same thing of being a fag?
just asking

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posted 06-07-2002 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KillerKongFu   Click Here to Email KillerKongFu     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
BlackAle, I think for trying to get your point across your doing a horrible job. Here is my reasoning for my statement. You say you want CM to stop saying hateful comments to you about being gay, but yet you have for a topic "is CM in the closet?" How does that help the situation? Personally my sexual prefernce is that of woman. But I have had several gay friends. Now I have had many discussions with them over this very same topic, of how they handle it. Each has had difference responces. But overall I noticed that when they sat a person down to explain to them why they are who they are. (And also that it is not a choice at all.) It usually worked out for the best. Concerning CM, I saw one of these little out burst he had, and pmed him. I talked to him for awhile, and asked him questions on why he said what he did. Im not going to repeat everything we said, but I will say that a big reason he acts the way he does is b/c of his up bringing. You stated above who cares how old he is and where he came from, but that is a very big factor of who he is. Now the only thing I can think of is for you to talk to him...ie pm him. You might not get your point across but you might get him to stop acting the way he is. (Im assuming thats what you want, and the reason for this post?) Now a reason all guys that hate gays should not care at all. Think of this the next time you see 2 gay guys holding hands. Less competition! And if you have ever noticed all the gay guys have hot female friends. Man I can't remember how many times one of my gay friend has hooked me up with one of their hot hot straight female friends.

KKF

One more thing their is a sweet little command that is so easy to use. ?ignore Chicken Man If he bothers you that much.

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posted 06-07-2002 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NV__ME     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Blackale is a homosexual?

Ewwwwwwwwwwww

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posted 06-07-2002 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TPS   Click Here to Email TPS     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The *average* people oversees are more narrowminded than Europeans, sorry that's a fact. (Proven with for instance our gay-marriage, hence it's even in your law that they're "less" human) It's not an insult, it's a statement. Where CM is the one edge (against homosexuality... hmm.. Hitler style =/) and (luckily more every day) peepz like Daz and yourself (BD) who try to have an open mind.

But truly, it's really difficult to see that there's still such a fuss about all of this. Even for heterosexual people.

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ps: Everyone knows I'm anti-American, they should all burn in hell those bastards, including the numerous friends I have there.

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posted 06-07-2002 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodDrinker     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

LOL! You can't prove narrowmindedness, TPS. It's subjective.


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posted 06-07-2002 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chicken-Man-   Click Here to Email Chicken-Man-     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i have never said you didnt deserve to live hoegaarden.

you say my morals are "twisted" but that is your opinion, but in my opinion, your morals are.

we disagree and arguements like this will go on through the rest of humanity.

i am stubborn, i guess you could say, and i believe it is a choice, whether you think so or not, and if it is a "disease" i think it is "curable"
thats what sexual reoriantations programs are for.

daz: if you want to get rid of words like "gay" in swz, because they are offensive, why dont we remove all cuss words, etc. to me, they are offensive, especially using God's name in vain (GD, etc) calling blackale names offends him, so shouldnt offensive words alltogether be removed?

oh btw, its a beer, but what does hoegaarden mean?

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posted 06-07-2002 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TPS   Click Here to Email TPS     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'd say the above post of CM is pretty narrowminded... Not only does it contain false information, it shows of either a low intelligence or a supremely childish mind, probably both...

"sexual reoriantations programs"?? I mean you can't CHANGE feelings, I like women wether or not I agree with that or not IT IS NOT OF MY CHOOSING. Did you choose to like and romantically love women? No CM, you probably don't even know yet what love is. Love trandscends (sp?) gender.

Or do you actually believe that at the age of 15, about 10% of the entire world population "CHOOSES" to start being homosexual? Ah I bet you even think someone CHOOSES to be a male or a female. Or someone CHOOSES his skincolor, eyecolor, dicksize(:P) etc. I don't know where you get your information from, but you need some good biology, psychology and LIFE lessons. It's not even an arguement or an opinion as you state, it's a plain biological fact. It's in the brains of people, they cannot control it, they often don't even mind it, it is who they are.

Is it that hard to accept that except for "black-white" or "male-female" there's another 'issue' in "gay-straight".

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