posted 02-14-2002 08:36 PM            

bombers are soooooooooooo big, if they are that big make them stronger and slower, no just make them small again

forced shipsets:
they are needed for big ships, but why not (slyths or quickshots idea if im correct) make only the capships bigger and the other ships normal. get standard capships if thats possible, i really dont like flying with that ugly red/white weasel, i like the normal colours...

im not sure if its possible, but lets make greens smaller, they look so ugly

posted 02-15-2002 10:27 AM            

that shipset is horrible, gj to whoever made that lol

i think the bomber is too big for its speed, and why use 2 star destroyers as caps? flying deathstar!:P

i think we should stay with the ships, ship settings, ship sets, same lvl weapons, and no flag upgrades!!!

but other than that i like it cool A1 thingy whoever did that gj

i could find alot more to whine about, but tats too much to type

posted 02-15-2002 11:53 AM            

?go research is just that RESEARCH nothing in there is final nothing in there is even close to ready for release in the public arena.

Please understand nothing in that arena is finished. There is still LOTS to discuss and decide. The only reason the arena was made public was to give the swz population a chance to see what .37 can/cant do and to get imput from our players to see if this is something we want to try.

IF we do decide to use a larger ship graphic for caps we will have to force people to use ships 7/8 graphics but your normal ships wont be "forced" there is no default "large graphic so big caps will have to be forced...

I am still questioning wether or not cm should have even shown this to people, as its what I would consider an early beta test. I knew he would get some backlash over the unfinished samples Just keep in mind we all wants whats best for swz and we are just considering ALL of our options.

posted 02-15-2002 09:40 PM            

The research zone shows potential... though really, how much input can you expect from SWZ players if you aren't even using semi-final settings? It's basically an unchanged SWZ with a different looker and bigger ships...

Anyway, just keep the ships balanced... keep the caps rare, and preserve classic SWZ flagging. It's important to a lot of non-staff people too.

posted 02-16-2002 02:29 AM            

I think other than ship meddling we should look into other ideas, i like how pb has a floating scoreboard and event specific sounds, maybe when a freq has all 15 a timer could start up or something so attacking freq has somethin to go by. I dunno, i jus think everyone has got tunnelvision idea-wise becus they got shown big ships, an thats all they can think of.

and btw with the "forced" shipset issue, isnt there something in the options about "use optional level graphics and sound"

posted 02-16-2002 05:27 AM            

But I sense to much focus on looks not feel or the mechanics of the game.

My concern is the more graphic intensive we make this zone the bigger FPS hit people will have. Something to keep in mind, lets maintain balance.

I would be more interested on how the new settings can be leveraged for improved game play.

As a recommendation to the staff I would roll out changes in phases. Test each phase with the zone and tell us what was changed. That way we can stay focused on what needs tested.

NOW a recommendation to the SWZ community lets be patient and mature in our feedback to the staff. This is a chance for everyone to become a part of the zone and the game itself. Providing immature feedback to the staff results in wasted effort on your part and the staff is less likely to ask for opinions in the future.

Looking forward to helping with new goodies...........

posted 02-16-2002 06:37 AM            

no!

posted 02-16-2002 09:26 AM            

About the research arena, I love the big cap ships. They would add an interesting twist. Keep in mind that the rebel freq won't be using a star destroyer, so at most only one of those designs will be used, so i don't see why people are complaining about it. I also like the idea of larger bombers, seeing how bombers are supposed to be larger than fighters, but that may cause some problems when designing tight bomblines in bases.

posted 02-17-2002 03:29 PM         

Big Cap ships - Two thumbs up. I found them to be a blast to play with and against. I have always hated capships, however the news ones have changed my mind. I would actually prefer it if you used the larger of the two ships.

Larger Jav - I had no problem playing as it. However, the majority seems to dislike it.

New Spider - The look of the new spider is pure genius. The ship looks exactly how I would imagine a cloaker should - small and sneaky. I would love this ship to be forced.

Forced Shipset - I'm afraid I would despise you guys if you replaced this sleek warbird of mine.. unless you showed me something better, but that you have not done.

Flag upgrades - I am kind of against them. This is a mere preferance thing and I wouldn't raise a fuss if you kept them.

Bases and Big Caps - A few of the bases we have already work with the smaller of the big caps, and I don't think making bases for the big caps would be a problem. The caps aren't THAT terribly big, and I think it would be fun to hide behind a big cap as it rushes through a tight corrider.

posted 02-17-2002 03:32 PM            

but i think what we should do, maybe with help of strong graphical ppl. is deisign a lot of ships for the large ships and force those ones. then we can download the ones we like out of the ones available to download. that would solve a lto of turmoil being discussed out there.

but jsut for my information, when we are talking forced ships. are you forcing the .bm2 file of the ship, or the actual ship number 7 and 8 in the game reguardless of the look of the ship.

is there any way that the sysop of the zone (or whoever is making these decessions) can say just force ship 7 and 8 as the ship itself istead of the graphical file...i just don't understand what we are talking bout when we are forcing ships.