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Quickshot*
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posted 11-28-2001 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quickshot*   Click Here to Email Quickshot*     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
ok what is the deal with our zone lately. it seems as if things are reverting more and more to the eg level of play.

the upgrades, the maps (maybe) changing, the level of play, greens, ect.. ect..

me, as a player, i do not like it, i started to play here in swz for the fact that it was the different more basic zone, there were none of these hueg "added features to make it more enticing for all 'n00bs' to come play". it seemed intersting in the fact that the people who played there were some of the greats of the game.

but now the way things are progressing it seems more and more, almost daily, that things are reverting to the "enticing mode". which may not be a bad thing cause yea we do need some more players here or there, but to th extent we are doing it, i do not believe that it will end up good for the "oldies/vets" in the long run.

just my 2 cents.

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DARKest_DAys
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posted 11-28-2001 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DARKest_DAys   Click Here to Email DARKest_DAys     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
wait i though this was suppose to be about swz vs extreme, dammit dont make topics like this foo

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Quickshot*
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posted 11-28-2001 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quickshot*   Click Here to Email Quickshot*     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
ok chaneg the subject then....swz OR eg.

gawd...no need to get all defensive

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C'baoth
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posted 11-28-2001 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C'baoth   Click Here to Email C'baoth     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
It's been heading that for a long time sadly. I guess it's a matter of numbers, do you want a bunch of a tired old vets talking about how everything was better in vie beta, or hordes of newbies who can barely attach. I suggest you do what I did.... stop caring about pub.

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Chicken-Man-
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posted 11-29-2001 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chicken-Man-   Click Here to Email Chicken-Man-     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
ive said it for months, they r trying to turn us into eg....thank god i just sit in spec now..bbut i feel bad for my fellow swz'ers who have to suffer in pub...and C wtf do we want noobs? swz owns(ed), it should stay the way it is (was) down with flag upgrades!

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wweii
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posted 11-29-2001 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wweii   Click Here to Email wweii     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Gee you guys make it sound like swz is getting really bad, lol maybe I won't come back :P. Just a thought, I think all the greats miss the old days, not just because of the way the settings were but for the memories and that excitement of something new .

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Mom
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posted 11-29-2001 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mom   Click Here to Email Mom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Would someone explain to me what has changed?

1. Flag upgrades Once A Week during prives

what else is like EG?

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wweii
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posted 11-29-2001 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wweii   Click Here to Email wweii     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I just heard there were new bases, and upgrades on the greens or something. Not sure though , its been sooo long since I played

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Raynor
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posted 11-29-2001 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raynor   Click Here to Email Raynor     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Chickenboy said swz is turning into eg for months?...
hmmm you only play 2 months you noob

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Raynor
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posted 11-29-2001 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raynor   Click Here to Email Raynor     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
swz is fine now, populations is slowly growing again, in weekends 60 ppl playing, thats nice,

what baot said, stop the whining

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V-Chip
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posted 11-29-2001 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V-Chip   Click Here to Email V-Chip     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Not that I'd want to back up Chicken Man, but he actually has been playing on and off for a really long time.

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My Looks
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posted 11-29-2001 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for My Looks   Click Here to Email My Looks     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Just because pointman is helping improve swz does not mean he is turning it ito eg. 1) why the hell would he want to steal players from his main zone eg? 2) How is the new map like eg? The new eg map has a similar layout to the current swz map but remember which one came first

SWZ does not have 1 shot death kills (although it used to). SWZ does not have a spawn in center safe. Oh and as far as flag upgrages go? Well that was requested by many veteran swz players. That was also an old feature of swz that you noobs dont recall.

Please don't start blasting on pointman for helping rebuild swz. He is one of the nicest most respected sysops in all of subspace and I for one am grateful he is taking the time to help us grow as a zone.

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posted 11-30-2001 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quickshot*   Click Here to Email Quickshot*     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
calm...simmer...i recall having ungrades and all that back in the day, but why revert back to it. i mean yea for a bit it is fun, but on a normal basis i disagree, swz was and is unlike most other zones, adding in features that others continously use makes us the "norm" instead of the outsider.

i like the way of the outsider, which is what catch my attention to the zone a lon ways back, don't get me wrong though. i am not saying 100% we are chanign drastically. but the world wasn't built in one day, nor will swz be re-built, so why add in "new features" to try to appeal to others. if they like the way it was they like it, no need to change to suit the new needs.

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posted 11-30-2001 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crawdaddy   Click Here to Email Crawdaddy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I keep hearing the phrase "new features" but never an explanation of what it means. And Quick, why get hung up on ship upgrades when they're only possible at most 1 day out of the week?

-Craw

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posted 11-30-2001 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chicken-Man-   Click Here to Email Chicken-Man-     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
ray, uve been calling me chicken boy for more thn 2 weeks....V loves me

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Subslayer !
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posted 11-30-2001 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Subslayer !   Click Here to Email Subslayer !     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i still dont like the flag upgrades
laggy warbird centerkillers with purple bulllets .... yugh

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TC Dark Reign
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posted 11-30-2001 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TC Dark Reign   Click Here to Email TC Dark Reign     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The flag upgrades and new map remind me of how swz was when i first started playing here. Kind of nostalgic =P I don't see what the problem is. Flag upgrades for a few hours once a week? If you don't like it, take a nap for a few hours and come back.

I agree with everything My Looks said (whoever he is).

wweii, SWZ is not the problem, no one is happy with anything anymore and wouldn't be satisfied no matter what. In the past few years, yes, there have been a few changes to SWZ, but I think most of the change has come from the players's attitudes, which of late, has become increasingly negative. I can sum up about 99.9% of whats said on our chats in just a few words: "WTF? Lagger! Eater! Tank! In such a negative atmosphere, no wonder people see conspiracies everywhere =P You'd be surprised how your attitude can influence your perception of the game (psychology major talking here =)

Would be really nice to see a little less whining.

-TCDR

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N_R
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posted 12-02-2001 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N_R   Click Here to Email N_R     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
swz is good. I just came back less than a month ago and i didn't even notice any changes in the settings (except flag upgrades on priv freq nights). But, i suggest the return of private freqs. We had less n00bs back then, and more fun. If the newbies wanna complain about not being able to be on the "good" team, they can suck on my hairy sack. period. (bring back privs) now.

~NR

btw-vchip, what is ur icq/email?

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V-Chip
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posted 12-02-2001 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V-Chip   Click Here to Email V-Chip     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Once you figure out how to find it on this forum, I guess you'll know. Tart.

(I don't use ICQ much any more)

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posted 12-02-2001 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N_R   Click Here to Email N_R     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
bah, i shoulda thought of that. n00b.

!NR!

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posted 12-14-2001 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimmy_Pop     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I started playing in SWZ back in 1998 when I first downloaded SS... in fact it was one of the first zones I went into... I've been away for about a year now, but now that I'm back, I haven't really noticed any HUGE changes, and any that I have seen are for the better; I like the new map and bases, the tileset looks better, etc... But most of all I like the players, and I've seen that that hasn't changed much either! I play almost exclusively in SWZ, but I've tried other zones, and I have to say a major difference is that players actually TALK to one another in SWZ! Granted a lot of it is stuff like "lamer" and "ez" and "WTF YOU GODDAMN LAGGER!!!"... but the people who play there a lot, many of which I remember from my first days of SS, are on the whole a great community! Maybe it has to do with the teamwork fostered by a GOOD flag game (not one with only 4 people from your freq flagging and the other 20 centerkilling), but people get to know each other and learn to work together... I for one welcome the influx of new players, as they keep this wonderful zone growing! I know there are the occasional misfits that start trash with a mod, not realizing that SWZ is volunteer-run, but that's to be expected anywhere... But basically it was remembering the great and supportive community that brought me back to the zone and to SS in general! In particular it was Mom sending me a christmas card long after I had last talked with her that made me think of that! I guess what I'm trying to say is... *sniff*... I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!

Ok, just had to get that off my chest... Happy Holidays to all!

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posted 12-15-2001 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FlyingFortress   Click Here to Email FlyingFortress     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
hey jimme! its good to see that youre back man!

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posted 12-15-2001 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimmy_Pop     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
w00t I am remembered!

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posted 12-15-2001 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linuxb0y     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

Hugz All Around !

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