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Topic: Something that often ruins the flag game
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911POZ Member Posts: 214 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-30-2001 07:07 PM
newbies with a big scoreyou know when one team has a decent cap and the other has a total newbie chosen by the newbie with a big score. something must be done IP: Logged |
Nomad381 Member Posts: 13 Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 05-31-2001 05:22 AM
Are you serious? Your prob is newbies with a big score? wth, the real probs with flagging are lag and too huge teams resulting in mindless barrage until the freq with the most firepower holds out.Nomad381 a.k.a Agent381 IP: Logged |
NV__ME Moderator Posts: 248 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 07:17 AM
I find its when I need to go for a piss.IP: Logged |
911POZ Member Posts: 214 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 07:50 AM
lag isnt much of a problem for flagging since the last changes in the settings except for one thing and please, god, let tailchaser hear this. Most of the time i have a 80 or 90 ms average. And just like everybody the connection isnt _perfectly stable_ so sometimes i get little spikes. Spikes that bring me to 280 ms ping. Server specs me. Some ppl play with a 300 ping with no problem, how come when i get a 280 ms "spike" (if we can call it a spike) i get specced ?
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BloodDrinker Member Posts: 115 Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 05-31-2001 08:46 AM
If we'd eliminate caps and go to privs, we wouldn't have this problem. =) Caps ruin a good flagging game. So do thors. Newbies, however, make a flag game thrive, cause they won't be newbies forever. We need people in this zone, and so what if they suck when they just downloaded the game. So did you. =) As far as cap skill goes, we all know where the F3 button is on our keyboard. That about sums it up. Rocket, rep, rep, rep, rep... bleh. Time to get rid of caps in favor of training the zone to have some skill.
------------------ BloodDrinker {Eminence} -A reasonable man tries to adapt to the world around him. An unreasonable man tries to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all change is dependant upon the actions of unreasonable men.
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NV__ME Moderator Posts: 248 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 09:17 AM
Lol I bet this turns into a privs vs pubs debate....................................Personally I cant stand caps, I belive they wreck the flag game but getting rid of caps is a touchy subject, it is seen as part of the "identity" of the zone and its history. Kinda off the subject and just to ensure this post does turn into a privs vs pubs devate ; I had an interesting conversation with mom the other day, I was kinda asking for privs and she pointed out an argument that to be honest hasn't really been used to much, usually its, "aww the noobs will leave", "the population will drop" etc etc. She said the reason we don't have privs is due to the fact the current population isn't of adequate size to support privs except with the exception of peak times. Question : Is it possible to have a bot which switches the zone between privs & pubs when the population crosses a threshold? Of course this switch would need to take place after the last flag game and after the population had remained over that threshold for a certain period of time, to avoid the zone flicking annoyingly between the two. She also mentioned that the people on this forum make up only a very small proportion of the current zone regulars and that in fact some of the people who post/read this forum don't actually play much, maybe a fair point. To encourage some of the other players to join in perhaps this board should be advertised more, maybe in the zone? NV
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DCR Member Posts: 434 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 11:07 AM
Looks like BloodDrinker isn't a complete idiot.IP: Logged |
DCR Member Posts: 434 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 12:59 PM
quote: She also mentioned that the people on this forum make up only a very small proportion of the current zone regulars and that in fact some of the people who post/read this forum don't actually play much, maybe a fair point.
She was correct there. I rarely play SWZ anymore, but I post here regularly. And the reason for more of SWZ's population not posting here is this: they're all morons. Seriously. Most of them haven't figured out that thorring and bursting aren't the only ways to attack yet..so of course they aren't going to be using the zone's forum. IP: Logged |
NV__ME Moderator Posts: 248 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 04:16 PM
Agreed, it is most likely some of these people struggle to find there way back from the bathroom, nevermind to this forum.
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jameex Member Posts: 65 Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-31-2001 08:19 PM
are u now implying that this forum is too elite for them or that they are complete idiots? or both? =)IP: Logged |
FlyingFortress Member Posts: 435 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 10:07 PM
bah u n00biez don't appreciate the greatness that are caps  they've been part of swz since forever, i couldnt picture the zone without them (even with privs.....) IP: Logged |
Kodos Member Posts: 51 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 06-01-2001 02:24 AM
Why don't we have the bot changed so that the cap will not be picked by the person with the highest score but rather by a vote by the whole frequency? Doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do. IP: Logged |
Raynor Moderator Posts: 658 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-01-2001 08:35 AM
caps suck thors suck pubs suckUGH! IP: Logged |
NV__ME Moderator Posts: 248 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 06-01-2001 09:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by FlyingFortress: bah u n00biez don't appreciate the greatness that are caps  they've been part of swz since forever, i couldnt picture the zone without them (even with privs.....)
Sorry old timer, but the youth has spoken.  Caps promote cap whoring, cap whoring promotes lameness, lameness...............
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911POZ Member Posts: 214 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-01-2001 07:38 PM
kodos : yeah that vote would be a nice thing to try out !IP: Logged |
FlyingFortress Member Posts: 435 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-01-2001 10:40 PM
i dont see cap whoring as much of a problem...2 and a half years ago players could cap 3 games in a row, uncap for the next one, then cap another 3 straight games (and repeat the cycle all day) THAT was capwhoring, lol  IP: Logged |
FlyingFortress Member Posts: 435 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-01-2001 10:42 PM
anyway, unless we go 100% privs, caps arent going to be taken out. at least thats what the sysops said last time. but i support them fully with that decision. caps = fun.IP: Logged |
911POZ Member Posts: 214 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-02-2001 09:52 AM
i like caps pretty much alsoi used to think privs only would rule... and it would be the case if the zone population would be always 60+, and if ppl would play just with a little bit of strategy. Right now on priv nights ppl play dumb, just like if it was pubs IP: Logged |
DCR Member Posts: 434 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-02-2001 10:09 AM
Of course they play dumb..they are fucking dumb.As for caps, they're one of the gayest aspects of this zone. They promote stupidity, lameness, and the spray-and-pray mentality of countless retards (and terrier pilots) who rely on 12k energy because they cannot be of use to their team with anything less. IP: Logged |
slim- Member Posts: 13 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-03-2001 02:11 AM
stupid flaggingIP: Logged |
Circle Member Posts: 168 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-03-2001 01:37 PM
Cap ships = good. Especially with these kind of bases where only a rocketing cap rush could break the front lines and choke points.------------------ --Circle IP: Logged |
FlyingFortress Member Posts: 435 Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-03-2001 01:43 PM
exactly circIP: Logged |